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| Oh, I see it now. So with good wiring, a superimposed ignitor wired close to the lamp (less than 50cm) would be fine, with a remote ballast that can be many metres away.
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Oh, I see it now. So with good wiring, a superimposed ignitor wired close to the lamp (less than 50cm) would be fine, with a remote ballast that can be many metres away.
Exactly. The superimposed ignitor is inside of the fixture close to the socket, the ballast then can easily be far away in the electrical cabinet. The distance between the ballast-to-fixture cable is then limited just by the wire resistance losses. And don't forget to disconnect/deactivate the original semiparallel ignitor (which uses to be part of the US ballasts), it may cause problems. |
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| Using a superimposed ignitor seems like a great idea. Unfortunately, I do not think there are such ignitors for US 52-55v HPS lamps since they are mostly designed for 85-130v HPS and MH lamps. There are also some superimposed ignitors for 265v HPS and MH lamps as well.
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« Last Edit: October 18, 2020, 03:41:55 PM by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA »
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| If you do decide to use a bunch of small CMH lamps, one option you do have for enclosing them would be to get a bunch of glass test tubes to put over them to contain any non-passive lamp failures.
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| I imagine mason jars would be useful for containing the explosions of ED17 unprotected MH lamps.
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I'm wondering exactly how strong of protection is really required for EOL lamps as a lot of low wattage MH fixtures I've seen seem to have relatively thin plastic refractors . Remember now , I've never seen a MH lamp fail non-passively first hand . I've only seen maybe 2 or three after the fact .  |
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Using a superimposed ignitor seems like a great idea. Unfortunately, I do not think there are such ignitors for US 52-55v HPS lamps since they are mostly designed for 85-130v HPS and MH lamps. There are also some superimposed ignitors for 265v HPS and MH lamps as well.
2 lamps in series..... |
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With the one I converted, I removed all the E12 sockets and just hung a (remote-ballasted) E27 socket in the middle.
I think I have a picture somewhere... yeah, from a decade ago. Here it is with a silly 20,000K aquarium lamp in it. Ballast is housed in a table below, and is interchangeable.
It's coming across on my phone very blue and I have to say it looks pretty amazing. |
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