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									|    Oh dear, you're not feeling ill, are you..?    (Sorry, couldn't resist    ) |  |  
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									| I’ve got both HID and LED street lanterns in collection, there’s nothing wrong with a bit of tech variety!    |  |  
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									| I find myself liking the AEL Watch Light for some reason! I want one!
 https://americanelectriclighting.acuitybrands.com/products/detail/658513/american-electric-lighting/watch-light-wl1/led-security-luminaire
 
 Well, I find there one thing suspicious: It is apparently a fixture without any exact precision beam control, yet they claim with a 6500lm they replace 150W HPS or 250W MV. Well, those HID haveabout 12000lm output, so it means they use barely 50% efficient optics as a reference. That is way too low in my eyes for such beam pattern lantern... So another case of lying about competitor performance. What else they are lying about? Does not sound lika a good partner for any business to me... |  |  
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									| Well, I find there one thing suspicious: It is apparently a fixture without any exact precision beam control, yet they claim with a 6500lm they replace 150W HPS or 250W MV. Well, those HID haveabout 12000lm output, so it means they use barely 50% efficient optics as a reference. That is way too low in my eyes for such beam pattern lantern...So another case of lying about competitor performance. What else they are lying about? Does not sound lika a good partner for any business to me...
 
 Almost all LED makers do that! Therefore, I always go by lumen output, not the manufacturer`s claims. |  |  
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									| You missed fluorescent   , you also need an induction lamp to add to your mix |  |  
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									| You missed fluorescent  , you also need an induction lamp to add to your mix 
 Yeah ok, I'll give you those two. I've never had an induction lamp but I have seen them in action, they're certainly interesting..! |  |  
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									| Almost all LED makers do that! Therefore, I always go by lumen output, not the manufacturer`s claims.
 Not all. Reputable ones do show how they perform in the area and maybe compare with older model, but always showing the hard performance data (surface illumination,...), where the old system is wasting so how it is possible for the new one to suffice with less lumens. So you get enough data to judge yourself, if it applies for your application as well, or if not (so you may look for a different spec lantern) But without such details it is BS spec. The thinking is "do not scare off customers with details", so they wont hesitate to transition. That may work short term, but the only real outcome of such "marketing" would be (and already in many cases is) long term people loosing trust into the LEDs in general. Just because wrong products are specified for task they are not able to do and all that because with many, mainly cheap makers, there is too limited reliable information about the performance to allow to select really the correct products for matching tasks. |  |  
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									| The Eaton caretaker LED is also pretty neat too, my favorite design is the 1st gen, but the 2nd gen looks good too, plus either can accept standard clip on NEMA head optics. Gumball anyone?
 It’s also nice that ~3K CT is finally being more widely offered so your gumball looks like it’s running a inc to some degree.
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									| I, myself, personally like the Leotek GCJ and GCM. (Not really a fan of the GCL), and they look even better with 3,000K.   |  |  
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									| I actually like the AEL WL1 too myself, some rural electric companies have been replacing failed NEMA heads with them locally. They are installing them with the FCO "Zero uplight shields." They put out a good amount of light.  |  |  
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									| Not bad, overall I like LED fixtures though that have the "ears" making them NEMA compatible with buckets, or any other fitting you wanted. |  |  
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