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Fluorescent Starter Sockets « on: May 01, 2025, 08:46:39 AM » Author: Multisubject
I know that starters and starter sockets interface with mushroom-shaped pins that twist 90-ish degrees to lock. I also know that some bulb bases (specifically GU-24 and GU-10) use the same mechanism. I know that GU-24 is definitely way to big to be the same as a starter socket, but GU-10 (from the pictures I have seen) looks promising in terms of size.

Are these bases the same? GU-10 sockets are a lot easier to find than genuine starter sockets, and if I can use them that would be great.

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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #1 on: May 01, 2025, 09:07:41 AM » Author: Alex
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2025, 12:19:40 PM » Author: Multisubject
Darn, I thought they may have looked a little small. That is unfortunate.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #3 on: May 02, 2025, 07:30:46 AM » Author: dor123
Starters have a dedicated sockets for them, which don't have a name. It is neither GU24 and GU10 lamp sockets.
Starter sockets are universal worldwide except some Japanese glow starters which have a screw base socket.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #4 on: May 02, 2025, 08:22:08 AM » Author: Multisubject
Starter sockets are universal worldwide except some Japanese glow starters which have a screw base socket.
Yea I have seen those, I think they are cooler-looking than the normal ones.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #5 on: May 02, 2025, 01:57:42 PM » Author: RRK
@Multisubject are you kidding starter sockets are hard to find?? Tons are available all over the world, literally new and used.


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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #6 on: May 02, 2025, 05:48:10 PM » Author: Multisubject
Yea there are a heck of a lot of them, but none of them are as recessed as I would like them. I need some variety. Many are snap-in style (eww), and some are just plain ugly or cheap.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #7 on: May 03, 2025, 04:16:18 AM » Author: dor123
The starter socket itself isn't recessed. It can be recessed into the fixture, but not by itself.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #8 on: May 03, 2025, 04:09:46 PM » Author: Multisubject
Some starter sockets are indeed recessed by themselves, they mount directly to the enclosure and have a cavity for the starter to sit recessed.
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Re: Fluorescent Starter Sockets « Reply #9 on: May 25, 2025, 03:05:39 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Starters have a dedicated sockets for them, which don't have a name. It is neither GU24 and GU10 lamp sockets.
Starter sockets are universal worldwide except some Japanese glow starters which have a screw base socket.

Although most countries in the world do not give a name for the standard 2 pin starter sockets, I am aware that Japan actually calls those 2 pin starters sockets “P21” sockets. Evidence for the starter sockets being called the P21 base can be found on the specification sheets for Japanese starters with the standard 2 pin base.

See here:

https://www.seiwa.co.jp/en/product/ie/pdf/Lamps.pdf

https://www.akaricenter.com/chokkan/grrow/pdf/mitsubishi-fg-4p.pdf

https://kyowadenco.co.jp/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/fl-types.pdf

This basically means that standard 2 pin starters use the P21 base just so you all know.

However, every now and then, there are some starters that have a larger variant of the 2 pin starter base. For example, the starters used in North American F90T17/F100T17 preheat fluorescent fixtures use those larger bases. Additionally, there were some early 4 pin thermal starters that had a similar pin spacing to the F90T17/F100T17 starters with the addition of two other pins. It still holds true that P21 base fluorescent starters are used in virtually every country in the world.
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