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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #15 on: November 14, 2018, 05:44:15 PM » Author: TL8W
The earliest retrofit T8 I ever found was a Philips TLD18W/83, made in November 1978 - now FORTY!  Philips started them off in Triphosphor 83 and 84 before extending the range in 1980/81 to include Halophosphate colours, so as not to miss out on the market opened up by Thorn and Osram for traditional colours in Retrofit T8.
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #16 on: November 15, 2018, 06:37:45 AM » Author: Michael
Don’t know what the german Osram did but I haven’t seen any T8 retrofits from that time era. I think that they started to offer them later than Philips. For example Philips did offer the colour 82 (827) very early while Osram intorduced the same colour known as Lumilux Interna in 1985. Before that they still had the Interna 39 colour in T12 format in their portfolio.
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #17 on: November 19, 2018, 03:48:19 AM » Author: Men of God
然而T8管在50年代南京电子管厂生产过10W的并将它们出口到日本,当时我国主要还是使用T12 15 20 30 40W的,T8大规模应用与中国应该是在20世纪90年代中期,我家原来的灯就是T8 30W的,安装于1999年。
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #18 on: November 19, 2018, 04:49:48 AM » Author: magslight
So far I know Osram (factory Eichstätt/Germany) presented the 26mm T8 flourescent tube jan. 1978 for 35W T8 instead of T12 40W and 60W T8 instead of 65W. July 1978 presented Osram and Philips new T8 lamps for the market 18,36 and 58W. They wrote the lamps will be saleable in January 1979. GTE Sylvania Frauenaurach (Germany) presented for the market these typically T8 lamps in April 1979 with black end caps.
@TL8W: Where comes your 18W TLD of 1978 from? Has that lamp the brass end caps? 
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #19 on: November 19, 2018, 03:52:24 PM » Author: Michael
So far I know Osram (factory Eichstätt/Germany) presented the 26mm T8 flourescent tube jan. 1978 for 35W T8 instead of T12 40W and 60W T8 instead of 65W. July 1978 presented Osram and Philips new T8 lamps for the market 18,36 and 58W. They wrote the lamps will be saleable in January 1979. GTE Sylvania Frauenaurach (Germany) presented for the market these typically T8 lamps in April 1979 with black end caps.
@TL8W: Where comes your 18W TLD of 1978 from? Has that lamp the brass end caps? 


There we go.  8) Thanks  for the info Michael, do you have some  literature available about these lamps? 
Speaking of the Sylvania Energy saver tube, I use to have one black ender in my collection but it was dead.

For the TLD 18W tube, I think that it would be a little late for brass ended tubes for 1978. But it most likely would have crimped ends like all T8 before 1980/81?
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #20 on: November 20, 2018, 01:26:11 AM » Author: magslight
@Bidi: Sent you a mail. Just noticed I forgot the Philips ad :-[ ..
There in the ad the lamp had the same end caps like todays Aura lamps: http://www.auralight.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Protector-Ultimate_1000px.jpg
I meant these caps.
The Sylvania ad is the oldest one I found with 26mm diameter flourescent tubes in the standard wattages.
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #21 on: November 21, 2018, 12:33:40 AM » Author: Silverliner
When did the modern T8 fluorescent lamp came out for the US market? GTE Sylvania introduced the F32T8 Octron line in August 1981. Then Westinghouse followed suit shortly after with the Octolume line. GE was late in the game, the Trimline (now Starcoat) line came out around 1988-89.

The 18w and 36w T8 line you guys are talking about is not widely used in the states. Reason, most of our F40T12 ballasts are rapid start and they can't start krypton filled T8 lamps because the starting voltage requirement is higher in these lamps than RS ballasts could provide. Also the thiner tube diameter is farther away from the grounding fixture surface, which aids in lamp starting. Instead, we got the 34w 4 feet T12 and 60w 8 feet T12 energy savers.
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Re: When did T8 tubes come out? « Reply #22 on: November 21, 2018, 03:07:35 PM » Author: Michael
When did the modern T8 fluorescent lamp came out for the US market? GTE Sylvania introduced the F32T8 Octron line in August 1981. Then Westinghouse followed suit shortly after with the Octolume line. GE was late in the game, the Trimline (now Starcoat) line came out around 1988-89.

Did the first Octrons have black ends or already aluminium? Interesting that in the States the T8 energysavers were introduced later than in Europe.

The 18w and 36w T8 line you guys are talking about is not widely used in the states. Reason, most of our F40T12 ballasts are rapid start and they can't start krypton filled T8 lamps because the starting voltage requirement is higher in these lamps than RS ballasts could provide. Also the thiner tube diameter is farther away from the grounding fixture surface, which aids in lamp starting. Instead, we got the 34w 4 feet T12 and 60w 8 feet T12 energy savers.

Such tubes weren’t available in Europe. The T12 are/were always full wattage.
The other way round on our VHO tubes the wattage was being increased like for example the original 120W 5 feet tube became 140W and the 100W 4 feet tube was later sold as 115W. Both were then stated as “Double Flux”.
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