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Might have unexpectedly figured something out about myself! « on: June 22, 2025, 09:52:05 PM » Author: Foxtronix
For years now I've been trying to figure out who the hell I am as (mostly) a misfit. Don't belong anywhere, don't fit anywhere, very average academic history at best, always loved learning but hated school. Looking back, all the BS of life never seemed worth it, quite frankly.

In my memories most school subjects were meh. Art was the only class I felt the famous "flow" state. I often got close to failing French but my composition was excellent without even trying and that saved my butt more than once.

And then there was math.

My math grades were OK up to 7th grade. Not extraordinary but certainly respectable. Then in 8th grade I was introduced to algebra and hit a wall, the reinforced concrete type. For three straight years I was constantly under 60 but somehow semi-aced the final exam and saved my year. I never understood how to rewrite algebraic expressions to solve them. Ever. Not fully at least. I can do something simple like 3x + 5 = 17, but throw fractions and parentheses in the mix and 100% chance the result is wrong.

Once I graduated I stopped thinking about this and just considered I suck at maths or haven't tried hard enough. Now fast forward to last week. Twice during the week I flipped two digits in an invoice number I was entering into SAP (an inventory management system I'm using at work), despite being ultra careful. I always double-check, or even triple-check my data before hitting enter. This primed my over-analyzing brain into figuring out what the hell that's about. Additional memories also came back of screwing up mental calculations in bizarre ways, like doing 2 + 3 = 6.

I had already read the term dyscalculia before but decided to look it up. Bingo.  :DeAtH:

I have no real issues with basic arithmetic so it's probably a mild form. Or I unconsciously developed workarounds that work for basic operations but got shattered against that wall of algebra I mentioned. I'm pretty sure I have photographic memory so that might be it. If I see say 6 + 9 on paper the image of 6 + 9 = 15 appears in my brain. Almost as if simple calculations were more image retrievals rather than actual calculations. Of course in algebra that strategy ain't gonna fly!  :'-)

It's a bittersweet feeling. It always feels good to discover oneself. On the other hand it confirms what my intuition has been telling me for years, my brain just can't process math. I can take the blow to the ego but the academic and professional implications are much more serious. I was never cut for jobs involving lots of human interactions, and I simply don't have the physical robustness for manual labour (talking about general robustness, not just muscle strength). So STEM jobs felt like my only option for a decently-paying job. Not anymore! I guess I really ended up where I ought to be...  :-\

What comes naturally is using languages, mostly (I think?), and art to an extent. None of it is realistically marketable. Pretty much a financial death sentence...  :DeAtH:




If you made it all the way to the end of this wall of text, thank you.  ;D
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Re: Might have unexpectedly figured something out about myself! « Reply #1 on: June 23, 2025, 01:37:50 AM » Author: DimBulb
Hi Vince!
Sure sounds a lot like me! I just assumed it was because I was an only child and never really learned how to behave like other kids.
My job is repairing antique clocks. For me, they're pretty easy to problem solve because I can create a mental image of all the gears and what they do.
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Re: Might have unexpectedly figured something out about myself! « Reply #2 on: June 23, 2025, 07:33:17 AM » Author: Silverliner
That’s a new term for me! I sucked at math until I took electrical math in college, I got an A in that. I guess with my interest in electrical, math finally made sense to me.
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Re: Might have unexpectedly figured something out about myself! « Reply #3 on: June 23, 2025, 07:48:55 AM » Author: Multisubject
Ok, “financial death sentence” is a bit of an overstatement. I am not super duper good at math, but for what I want to do I am going to have to learn a bunch of it. The thing is, I can’t see myself in a situation where I would need to know math in the modern world, there are calculators, and now with AI you really don’t need to be held back by a lack of math understanding anymore. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not, but just saying.

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I am hoping the same happens to me, I am not super bad at math, I just hate doing it, and I hope doing some “interesting math” helps with that lol!
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Re: Might have unexpectedly figured something out about myself! « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2025, 09:09:43 PM » Author: Foxtronix
Hi Vince!
Sure sounds a lot like me! I just assumed it was because I was an only child and never really learned how to behave like other kids.
My job is repairing antique clocks. For me, they're pretty easy to problem solve because I can create a mental image of all the gears and what they do.

Only child? Really? So am I!  :lol:  I didn't fit in but I don't believe not having siblings was a factor. My parents keep telling me I had all the characteristics of a kid with high or even very high IQ, but I don't really believe it TBH...  ::)

Oh and also an avid fan of repairing stuff. Lately it's my backup pallet truck at work that keeps throwing the same error code(s), I'm tempted to take a look and see if I could fix it myself.  :lol:

@Silverliner: It helps immensely to know what quantities numbers represent! But that's kind of a separate problem from actual number processing. Even in the context of electricity, I find the math behind it quite interesting! But I MUST double-check everything, and make reverse calculations to see if my results make sense (unless it's obvious it does). And not like just every once in a while as a sanity check. It's EACH.AND.EVERY.TIME. Just like any learning disability, it doesn't ruin one's entire life, there are ways to manage the condition. But it would be naive to think it doesn't lead to more closed doors than open doors in life.

Ok, “financial death sentence” is a bit of an overstatement. I am not super duper good at math, but for what I want to do I am going to have to learn a bunch of it. The thing is, I can’t see myself in a situation where I would need to know math in the modern world, there are calculators, and now with AI you really don’t need to be held back by a lack of math understanding anymore. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not, but just saying.

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I can tell you from experience that a calculator won't save you if the brain doesn't cooperate! It's entirely unrelated to interest or efforts (though dyscalculia can absolutely fuel math aversion!). Errors like swapping digits in a number are completely out of one's control, it happens because of underdeveloped neural pathways in the region that processes numbers. They're not handled by the brain the way it should. In the most severe cases people can't even tell if 3 is bigger than 2! Thankfully I'm not that far gone! But it's still enough of a hindrance that higher education would be a risky move. I really don't see myself doing say engineering because of that.
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