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A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « on: July 09, 2025, 04:19:44 PM » Author: Maxim
It's very much dying, just as it is here and in Europe. Panasonic and Toshiba appear to be the only real manufacturers still making fluorescents, and they are the only makes available in stores. All new LED products are made in China, and imported into Japan.

I spoke to some locals about it, and they described, with great pain, the slow demise of HID, incandescent, and fluorescent, and how that forced many Japanese lighting plants to scale down or completely close.

Basically, the decline in lighting is a global problem, not one that is U.S. or Europe-specific.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #1 on: July 09, 2025, 08:29:47 PM » Author: joseph_125
Shame to see that happen to the domestic Japanese lamp manufacturers. Panasonic and Toshiba are both pretty big conglomerates in Japan so I could see them running lamp plants in Japan for a bit longer than smaller manufacturers.

The same thing happened with Canadian production of incandescent, fluorescent, and HID lamps but due to the proximity the US, production first consolidated to larger plants in the US/Mexico and then away from North America entirely. I believe the last Canadian lamp plant was probably Sylvania's Drummondville, QC plant which lasted until 2018.

There are some Canadian produced LED luminaires such as NXTs, but very few and I'd imagine the LED arrays and drivers are all imported. It is possible to build and assemble the PCBs for the LED arrays and drivers locally but again costs have driven many to import those assemblies. 
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2025, 09:36:20 PM » Author: LightsoftheWest
@joseph_125 - The same can be said for American LED luminaires. There are numerous luminaire manufacturers, big and small, that build their luminaires in the USA. But like you said, I'm guessing that most of them source their LED modules from elsewhere. However, there's one company that I know of, Linmore LED Labs out of California, that does build their fixtures, modules, and drivers in-house.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #3 on: July 21, 2025, 10:33:26 PM » Author: esaym
Sad. I moved into a brand new house 6+ years ago. Went down the rabbit hole of getting all modern LED lighting. But recently I've been getting bored with the lights. Been changing out random stuff to fluorescent. Guess I better stock up...
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2025, 04:41:45 AM » Author: dor123
I didn't know that Japan also doing this. I thought only countries outside the Far East doing this.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #5 on: August 02, 2025, 02:25:48 AM » Author: dchen4
I believe NEC (now spun off as Hotalux) still make some lamps locally, and some are outsourced to China. Either ways all fluorescent tube productions are going to stop on 31 December 2027 because of the Minamata Convention on Mercury, so even if the corps want to keep the lamp plants running for a bit longer they legally can not. However Iwasaki already stopped their HID production lines at the beginning of this year, HID is in a much tougher situation than fluorescent because many Japanese households used circlines and linear lamps .
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2025, 03:27:41 AM » Author: AngryHorse
Although not directly connected, I found a very interesting YouTube channel last night called ‘Tokyo Ninja Walk’, the channel owner walks around Japan (mostly in the early evening), or through rain and thunder storms and you see an hour’s worth of very interesting Japanese street lighting, from what I can tell in the video there’s still plenty of good working order fluorescent and mercury lamps along Japan's back streets!
A nice touch that the Japanese do also is have 2700K spot lamps below trees and bushes, making the streets look cozy at night 😎

Although there seems to be very few HPS lights, there’s a lot of yellows and greens among them, and lots of fancy post tops in true Japanese style 😎
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2025, 03:38:10 AM » Author: tigerelectronics
A global shortage of lamps is coming it seems :( I’m really saddened by the 2027 complete mercury resource usage ban, that’s really upsetting.

I’m stocking up before it’s too late. And I try to buy only high quality fluorescent tubes that will last a really long time in use.

We will have to rely on each other as lighting enthusiasts when it comes to tubes and hid lamps in the future. The more we can stock up the better!
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2025, 02:30:15 PM » Author: veso266
Why is everyone so sick of mercury it seams, they want to ban it and everything that uses it (why don't they just mandate some label that says use resposibly, don't drink or inhale if lamp breaks)
I bet there are other "dangerous" materials too that noone bans
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2025, 03:16:19 PM » Author: Roi_hartmann
Because no matter what stickers and labels you put some of it still tend to end up into environment and into the foodchain due to wrong disposal.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2025, 04:38:00 PM » Author: Al_M
Why is everyone so sick of mercury it seams, they want to ban it and everything that uses it (why don't they just mandate some label that says use resposibly, don't drink or inhale if lamp breaks)
I bet there are other "dangerous" materials too that noone bans

Because it's highly toxic to the environment when not disposed of properly, as most lamps containing mercury aren't.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #11 on: August 06, 2025, 04:10:09 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
When I personally have done my research into Japan’s lamps and lighting equipment, reading the characters “生産終了” really make me feel sad as I have been seeing traditional Japanese lighting face rapid extinction in recent years as they translate to “end of production” or “discontinued”.

It’s especially heartbreaking since Japan seems to have many lighting products that are unique to the country and not found anywhere else in the world including the wide selection of HID retrofit lamps designed for mercury vapor ballasts.

I also feel especially sad since Japan seems to be among the last holdout of 4 foot halophosphate fluorescent tubes in the developed world. All we can do is to save and document as much as we can even if it means spending large sums of money to get lamps and lighting equipment shipped overseas.
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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #12 on: August 07, 2025, 06:36:04 AM » Author: tigerelectronics
Indeed. They have a lot of really special and very interesting HID and fluorescents. I’m a huge fan of Japanese fluorescents with halophosphate. New production halophosphate :) I’d love to get my hands on some!

And yeah. We should do our best to stock up on, and document as many as possible. I’m in. :) I’ve stocked up on enough European fluorescents now, so I’m ready to start purchasing and importing Japanese :)

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Re: A little note on Japan's lighting industry... « Reply #13 on: August 07, 2025, 09:41:10 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
I think the circline fluorescent pendant light fixtures are worth importing as they look so stylish in homes. Buyee and Jauce are good websites that can help assist with importing lamps and fixtures to your country.
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