Part of EPact of 2005 « on: August 19, 2007, 05:30:26 PM » Author: FGS
What do it means that they are banning the sale or manufacture of MV ballasts effective Jan 1, 2008? Do they mean that there won't be anymore new US made MV ballasts?
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 05:58:56 PM » Author: FGS
Can I still get the lamps or ballasts? What will happen if I install a MV fixture in my backyard in 2008? (Currently doesn't have one.)
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 08:10:59 PM » Author: FGS
I wish the lawmakers did their homeworks before making something a law. Whoever passed the bill must gotten a F in chemistry otherwise they would know that "Hg" means mercury. What might happen if they decide to enforce the law at my house? Jail? Fine?
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 12:46:15 PM » Author: TudorWhiz
Dark sky LOVES Metal Halide, which has a LOT more mercury than Mercury Vapor! But yet, Dark Sky uses the "mercury" excuse to ban them!!!
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 10:02:08 PM » Author: FGS
Fluoros, CFLs, MHs, and HPS all have mercury in them. Even middle schoolers knows what "Hg" means. How do they recruit folks to work at DSA?? If they don't want and mercury to be used then they should use LPS or incandescents lamps.
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 08:25:24 PM » Author: FGS
Why can't they stop wasting money on banning lamps and ballasts instead of using that money to fund renewable energy projects?
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #11 on: August 26, 2007, 03:30:00 PM » Author: DaveMan
I'm with you guys on this one. I'm a fan of mercury vapor lights and am annoyed by this new bill. It just won't be the same without the pretty blue green hue of MV lights around so hopefully there is still a way to save MV lights whether we have to write letters or start a petition or something.
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #12 on: August 26, 2007, 11:37:32 PM » Author: TudorWhiz
Agreed!
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #13 on: August 27, 2007, 12:14:32 AM » Author: Silverliner
The ban is stupid yes but here's the catch: 175-1000 watt standard metal halide ballasts are electrically basically the same as mercs. The ballasts are designed to provide a slightly higher OCV to strike the MH lamps, the only difference. So you can order new MH ballasts to operate your mercs! I have seen lots of mercury lamps operated on MH ballasts in commerical lighting.
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	Re: Part of EPact of 2005 « Reply #14 on: August 27, 2007, 06:58:40 AM » Author: DaveMan
Quote from: Mercs rule!!! on August 27, 2007, 12:14:32 AM The ban is stupid yes but here's the catch: 175-1000 watt standard metal halide ballasts are electrically basically the same as mercs. The ballasts are designed to provide a slightly higher OCV to strike the MH lamps, the only difference. So you can order new MH ballasts to operate your mercs! I have seen lots of mercury lamps operated on MH ballasts in commerical lighting.  This makes me feel slightly better about this law even though it still irritates me. I don't think it affects the sales of mercury vapor bulbs though so we should still see those readily available. If not, I may have to stock up. And if worse comes to worse, there's always ebay.
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