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Moshe Shaltiel is one of the israeli factories of conventional lighting fixtures, that has been closed because of the LED lighting artificial revolution. The solid state lighting can be seen as a distruptive innovation , which distroys the traditional electrical lighting market (I don't even considered LED lighting as electrical lighting btw. For me, it is a third form of lighting after the electrical lighting and the combustion lighting).
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In this period of lighting technology transition, events described in the linked article have become the norm I'm afraid. A great extinction is indeed going on in the conventional lighting industry and claims more and more casualties:
- Today: Philips selling 80% of its stakes in Lumileds (USA), in automotive and halogen lighting (Germany) to an investment fund - Last week: Feilo-Sylvania closing down its HID lamp production in Belgium, and the last luminaire rolled off the Philips Emmen (NL) factory - Two weeks ago: Philips reduced further the production capacity at its HID lamp plant in Belgium, and Ledvance/Sylvania closing its Winchester (KY,USA) factory that produced halogen lamps - last summer: GE closing down the Lexington (KY) plant that made standard luminaires, and the Somerset (KY) glass plant for halogen lamps
The lighting market and industry conditions are so rough and competition so ferocious that even Chinese LED factories are not immune to closure: http://www.ledinside.com/news/2016/6/winter_is_coming_worlds_top_lighting_manufacturer_philips_closes_shenzhen_factory
In the coming years we'll definitely see even more closures of lighting factories and more re-organizations in the business as the industry transforms and LED becomes a mature technology.
It's really sad what this new LED craze is causing...
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Moshe Shaltiel is one of the israeli factories of conventional lighting fixtures, that has been closed because of the LED lighting artificial revolution. The solid state lighting can be seen as a distruptive innovation , which distroys the traditional electrical lighting market (I don't even considered LED lighting as electrical lighting btw. For me, it is a third form of lighting after the electrical lighting and the combustion lighting).
Dor, like it or not LED is here to stay, and old style lighting will be around for quite some time. I'm afraid LEDs won't be phased out, unless something else better than LED comes out! Now everyone, back on topic. Discuss the article about the Philips plant closing.
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Max, a correction about GE: The Lexington Lamp Plant does PAR lamp finishing. GE's factory that makes fixtures is in Hendersonville, NC and they are going to LED street lights. In this period of lighting technology transition, events described in the linked article have become the norm I'm afraid. A great extinction is indeed going on in the conventional lighting industry and claims more and more casualties:
- Today: Philips selling 80% of its stakes in Lumileds (USA), in automotive and halogen lighting (Germany) to an investment fund - Last week: Feilo-Sylvania closing down its HID lamp production in Belgium, and the last luminaire rolled off the Philips Emmen (NL) factory - Two weeks ago: Philips reduced further the production capacity at its HID lamp plant in Belgium, and Ledvance/Sylvania closing its Winchester (KY,USA) factory that produced halogen lamps - last summer: GE closing down the Lexington (KY) plant that made standard luminaires, and the Somerset (KY) glass plant for halogen lamps
The lighting market and industry conditions are so rough and competition so ferocious that even Chinese LED factories are not immune to closure: http://www.ledinside.com/news/2016/6/winter_is_coming_worlds_top_lighting_manufacturer_philips_closes_shenzhen_factory
In the coming years we'll definitely see even more closures of lighting factories and more re-organizations in the business as the industry transforms and LED becomes a mature technology.
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Currently, the fluorescent lamp plants still in operation are as follows:
GE, Bucyrus, Ohio GE, Circleville, Ohio GE, Logan, Ohio (makes glass tubes for above plants)
Ledvance, Versailles, KY
Philips, Salina, KS
Interlectric, Warren, PA
Of the above, currently only Circleville, Ohio lamp plant is slated for closure later in 2017. Bucyrus now makes some LED retrofit tubes.
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What about Sylvania, Versailles, Kentucky?
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Sylvania is now Ledvance. No more Sylvania
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What about Incandescent, Automotive, & LED? What plants do we have left in the USA?
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Sylvania is now Ledvance. No more Sylvania
This isn't limited to US Sylvania but to Osram worldwide: http://www.osram.asia/osram_asia
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"LED craze", as you call it, is simply a technology evolution like many others happening (or, that have happened) in countless other areas of our society. Of course, it's always sad to see jobs and a wonderful craft being lost as a result of the closure of lighting factories. In fact, this is as sad as when horse cart manufacturers had to close down their shops as a consequence of the popularization of the car, or when steam locomotive workshops were closed following the massive transition to diesel-electric technology, or when CRT television manufacturers had to close their factories and reorganize in panic following the explosive market expansion of flat screen displays, or... well, you get the idea. Life goes on, all things evolve, and if there's anything to be learned from Darwin it's that we have to adapt or perish in the waves of changes, and that applies to lighting companies too - so, there's really no point constantly wining about change and using childish nicknames like "LEDisease" or "Low Efficiency Disaster" (this says more about you than about the thing you are denouncing, btw), because it's happening wether you like it or not. Constantly complaining about it serves the only purpose of annoying people around. So, let's do something constructive and useful instead, like saving as much of the soon-to-be-extinct lighting technology and its history for the benefit of future generations.
The half-full glass view of the current lighting situation is that there's never been a better time to be a lamp/lighting collector. There's never been a wider selection of light sources and luminaires available at reasonable prices, while a very large part of the lamp technology is being phased out at a very fast pace, meaning that even mundane LED/CFL/HID bulbs from today will become historical items within a decade or two from now. You would have never benefited from such favorable conditions if you had been a collector in the 1970s, or in the 50s, or even earlier. Also, this favorable situation will disappear within a decade or so when the transition will be mostly complete and there won't be much conventional lamps and lighting systems left on the market. So, let's fully profit from the current conjunctions in the lighting technology and market (from a collector's point of view, that is)  Ha ha, very funny! keep them coming please, this lightens my day.
Max you did forget to mention about the transition from radio valves to transistor/ demiconductor diodes based systems way back in the sixties. This was the first attempt to replace "old fashioned" vacuum tubes to more convenient semi conductor electronics and this is how it goes with CRTs in one or two decades ago and now with lighting... What I really dislike is the displacement of most of the production of LED lights to China and Asia.
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Something I have noticed is that some people prefer CRTs or vacuum tubes over the other technologies. Usually, it's because they do something really well that the newer technologies can't replicate. People who play games often prefer CRT displays because of speedy response. People who like audio often prefer vacuum tubes.
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Something I have noticed is that some people prefer CRTs or vacuum tubes over the other technologies. Usually, it's because they do something really well that the newer technologies can't replicate. People who play games often prefer CRT displays because of speedy response. People who like audio often prefer vacuum tubes.
Retro games are better on CRT, modern games, either an HD CRT, or a regular LCD or plasma (if you can find them, but that's not what this topic is about)
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