Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « on: September 29, 2019, 11:11:21 AM » Author: dor123
My tracklight in my room at my hostel, have a Philips HID-PrimaVision Compact HID-PV C 70 /S CDM electronic ballast for 70W CMH lamps. It can also operates 70W QMH lamps. What would happen if I would run a 70W HPS lamp like an Osram NAV-TS 70W Super 4Y? Will it trip a protection? Will the lamp run a full performance? Will this damages the ballast?
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	Re: Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 07:01:08 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
Quote from: dor123 on September 29, 2019, 11:11:21 AM My tracklight in my room at my hostel, have a Philips HID-PrimaVision Compact HID-PV C 70 /S CDM electronic ballast for 70W CMH lamps. It can also operates 70W QMH lamps. What would happen if I would run a 70W HPS lamp like an Osram NAV-TS 70W Super 4Y? Will it trip a protection? Will the lamp run a full performance? Will this damages the ballast? aren't European halide and sodium lamps inter-changeable?
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	Re: Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « Reply #2 on: September 29, 2019, 11:09:17 PM » Author: dor123
Yes. But my Philips electronic ballast in my tracklight states that it is for CDM lamps only, even though it can run my QMH lamps well. Osram Quicktronic HID ballast, also states that it is for QMH and CMH lamps only.
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	Re: Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 12:27:15 AM » Author: Medved
Quote from: HomeBrewLamps on September 29, 2019, 07:01:08 PM aren't European halide and sodium lamps inter-changeable? Unless the ballast has some "special intelligence" exploiting some technology specific behavior to e.g. get better color maintenance. It may be either interferring with other lamp types, or most likely being plain too expensive for bringing no advanrage to the other lamp type. The point there could be, the HPS are (or better to say were) marjeted as the cheapest light (because frankly speaking that was their only advantage), so any overexpensive gear would null that property of the HPS.
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	Re: Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « Reply #4 on: September 30, 2019, 12:34:44 AM » Author: dor123
Thanks. My Philips HID-PrimaVision Compact HID-PV C 70 /S CDM, have a current boost mode, that is active during the mercury phase of my 70W RX7s MH lamps. With a 70W RX7s HPS lamp I would thing that this feature won't be activated.
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	Re: Opreating a 70W HPS lamp on an electronic ballast for 70W QMH and CMH « Reply #6 on: October 09, 2019, 03:58:28 PM » Author: dor123
Some MH lamps (Philips HPI-T 400W), are for mercury ballasts, and some (Osram HQI-BT 400W/D), are for HPS ballasts.
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