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									| 							 after a while, why do the actual tubing on a cfl turn blackish? 
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									| 							 I've seen a few that did that, I had one that did that too, lasted for quite a long time after too! 
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									| 							 iv'e had one that turned a little black on a timer for a while and it seems to work okay. 
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									| 							 CFLs seem to dim out over time, due to the slight blackening of the tube.  If you replace a CFL with a lot of hours on it with a brand new one of the same wattage, the light will be about 20% brighter!  I've noticed this with several CFLs from different manufacturers. 
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									| 							 The low diameter of the tube (T3 and now becoming T2) can explain a fast blackening. I also suppose that the high voltage pulse used to start the lamp makes a lot of sputerring from the electrodes. 
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									| 							  ok. but i thought only some cfls use high pulses of energy when the fist start; also i thought that this problem was being phased out. 
  
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									| 							 It's only a supposition. I don't know how the CFL gears works. 
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																thats ok ; i was just saying...    
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									| 							 i actually think that it is the sputter from the electrodes because mos cfls i use are instant start. this makes the electrodes sputter, kinda like on a MV lamp. 
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									| 							 That's why I believe that an high voltage pulse used to start the CFL... 
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									| 							 some of my Cfl's are programed start,i like those better than instant start. 
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									| 							 The current GE spirals that has "instant start" some of them seem to be more of a "quick programmed start"  
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									| 							 that is exactly what happens. guess they got the wrong ballast! 
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									| 							 The newer cfls that are on the market don't blacken as quickly. I have a N:Vision EXDO-13 from about 3 years ago that is on every night in one of my porch lights (my 1st cfl) and it hasn't blackened yet. On the other hand i have a 4 or 5 year old EDSO-14 commercial electric that was the preivous model to the EXDO-13 and it is blackened from about 5 hrs of use per day compared to on all night with 3 years. 
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