Preheat system with electronic starters « on: May 01, 2020, 03:18:11 PM » Author: Lightingguy1994
Hey so Im in the thinking stage about how i may ballast my halfpipers. Could make them 4 lamp RS but that might be too typical and i prefer lamps to be independent of each other. T8 is not gonna happen. Maybe preheat but with electronic starters? It needs to be EOL safe so if a bulb goes i can ignore it for a while. It also would be kind of neat. To do this i need to find 4 modernish 2bulb preheat ballasts and 8 or more electronic starters. Are these easy to find for good prices? Any thoughts welcome.
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	Re: Preheat system with electronic starters « Reply #3 on: May 02, 2020, 12:32:43 PM » Author: Lightingguy1994
Sorry for spelling in my initial post, typing on a phone is a pain. I like the electronic starters, if I were to get some from the UK, would they work on our preheat ballasts? As for the ballasts, I was thinking of finding the more modern universals that are standard can size, basically the last ones made before it went to all RS.
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	Re: Preheat system with electronic starters « Reply #4 on: March 13, 2022, 02:47:01 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
European single electronic starters would work very nicely on North American autotransformer preheat fluorescent tube ballasts very nicely and European series electronic starters would work very nicely on 120v preheat fluorescent tube choke ballasts pretty nicely as well.
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	Re: Preheat system with electronic starters « Reply #5 on: March 14, 2022, 03:31:50 AM » Author: dor123
He need a 4-22W series operation electronic starter. It will work on 120V as a single operation starter there.
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	Re: Preheat system with electronic starters « Reply #6 on: March 14, 2022, 03:34:27 AM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
The 4-22w electronic starters will have problems starting and operating F40T12 tubes on autotransformer ballasts, but they will start and operate F20T12 tubes fine. For F40T12 tubes on autotransformer ballasts, the 4-65w single electronic starters are needed. The assumption that the 4-65w electronic starters will NEVER work in North America is a fundamentally wrong assumption to make because the autotransformer ballasts are able to provide the correct OCV for such starters to be able to ignite the tubes properly. Whenever a fluorescent starter or an ignitor has a voltage marking printed on it, it does not necessarily mean that it is the required input line voltage of the fixture, but it actually refers to the required trigger OCV for ideal operation.
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	Re: Preheat system with electronic starters « Reply #8 on: March 14, 2022, 04:03:31 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
One of the downsides to the vivatronic starters is that they are only compatible with lag circuits only, but they do a good job at starting tubes reliably.
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