When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « on: October 30, 2020, 08:42:54 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
I am curious about this question because I do have a SLI/H lamp that dates to 1976 and it seems to run fine on a US 50w pulse start metal halide ballast without any problems. Am I right in knowing that pulse start MH lamps for the US market were first developed in the 1990s? If this lamp technology was developed fairly recently, I would find it interesting to be using a lamp that was phased out on a ballast that was not even invented at the time of the lamp’s phase out.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2020, 11:08:42 AM » Author: wide-lite 1000
GE had a "projected release date" of 4th quarter 1980 for the 175w Multi-Vapor 2 lamp which is their original pulse start metal halide lamp . This lamp had a E-23 1/2 bulb and had the electronic ignitor built into the base and ran on the standard M-57 175w MH ballast. GE's later versions were the Halarc PSMH which was originally available as the Miser 55w Maxi Light SBMH (1981-84) which used the same arc-tube as the 32w Halarc PSMH and finally the modern Pulse-arc lamps. Now, did other manufacturers release a version of the PSMH earlier, I don't know. I'm going off what I know from my older GE catalogs.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2020, 05:58:01 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: wide-lite 1000 on October 31, 2020, 11:08:42 AM GE had a "projected release date" of 4th quarter 1980 for the 175w Multi-Vapor 2 lamp which is their original pulse start metal halide lamp . This lamp had a E-23 1/2 bulb and had the electronic ignitor built into the base and ran on the standard M-57 175w MH ballast. GE's later versions were the Halarc PSMH which was originally available as the Miser 55w Maxi Light SBMH (1981-84) which used the same arc-tube as the 32w Halarc PSMH and finally the modern Pulse-arc lamps. Now, did other manufacturers release a version of the PSMH earlier, I don't know. I'm going off what I know from my older GE catalogs. I might see how the multi vapor 2 lamp will perform on a H39 ballast if I ever stumble across one.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #3 on: October 31, 2020, 10:37:33 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
Here is a slightly newer version of the Multi-Vapor 2 : https://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-MXR175-VBU-HO-Lamp-11417-R-HALARC-Metal-Halide-Lamps-175-Watt-NEW/272655582395  It still uses the standard M-57 ballast as the original lamp and has the ignitor in the base as the original did.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #4 on: November 14, 2020, 05:04:08 PM » Author: Silverliner
I have a couple of these lamps. The very first ones had a brass collar above the base. Still haven't found one. To answer your question the first PSMH lamps to use an external ignitor in the USA would probably be the Sylvania 100w MH lamp introduced in the mid 1980s. PSMH lamps in 175w and up came out in the late 1990s.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #6 on: November 15, 2020, 06:37:52 AM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Quote from: tolivac on November 15, 2020, 12:55:28 AM GE 175W "Halarc" lamps have an internal ignitor so they could be used on standard probe start MH ballasts.Have one in my collection. If I get one I would love to see how it would behave on a 175w H39 MV ballast.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2020, 01:18:33 AM » Author: Silverliner
In my experience the Halarc 175w lamps are difficult to start on MV ballasts.
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	Re: When did the US first use pulse start metal halide lamps? « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2020, 12:51:36 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
It would be pretty funny if I can use a European 750v 2 wire parallel ignitor to start this particular internally ingited halarc lamp more reliably on H39 gear.
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