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									| Is Philips' quality worsened, especially in LED lights? Watch that: https://calm.iki.fi/tolpat/kuva/9245  and https://calm.iki.fi/tolpat/kuva/7882  (The link is only in Finnish) |  |  
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									| All LED lights from all manufacturers are crap. I've seen a year ago an Osram/Ledvance LED floodlight glowing dimly And the Schreder Teceo 2 at Deshanim road/Kiryat Ata junction, keep flashing or stop working since they were installed and replaced AEG Koffer 150 with 250W HPS lamps: https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155092  , https://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155881  . |  |  
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									| I'm agree. I and the guys in calm.iki.fi -site are noticed more glitches in the light fixtures of Philips. |  |  
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									| Here broken ClearWAys are replaced to ClearWay Gen2s. They aren't maybe at all better... |  |  
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									| I think they doing the LED lanterns crap quality on purpose, in order to make more money. This is what called "Planned Obsolescence". The LED technology is a superb way to significantly short the lighting fixture life to that of incandescent lamps. |  |  
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									| I think they doing the LED lanterns crap quality on purpose, in order to make more money. This is what called "Planned Obsolescence". The LED technology is a superb way to significantly short the lighting fixture life to that of incandescent lamps.
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									| Seems like Phillips,GE,Sylvania,and Westinghouse are just names only plastered on poor quality products!Not just lighting equipment but other items as well. |  |  
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									| Seems like Phillips,GE,Sylvania,and Westinghouse are just names only plastered on poor quality products!Not just lighting equipment but other items as well.
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									| @Froggy05: American members may mislead you or give you answers that related only to the US, since their lamps and lighting companies are completely different and aren't sold in your country.American Philips is a different company than the European one. And I bet that Westinghouse, American Sylvania, GE North American and Philips North American, aren't relevant to you.
 Non-LED lamps from Philips are good. Their CFL and HID lamps are of high quality. This is the American Philips that is crap in all field of lighting and not only LED.
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								| « Last Edit: June 11, 2019, 04:52:19 AM by dor123 » |  Logged |  I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site.Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.
 
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									| let me clear things up a bit first  westinghouse today are basically abco out source  product that why hence we call them Faux Westinghouse.   GE and philip and sylvania have out source there Hid and incandescent over seas   the only thing left of philips is Salina fluorescent plant that still churning out T8 and T12 tubes while GE makes half the fluorescent product lines now. and Sylvania fluorescents going be out source to china   |  |  
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									| @Froggy05: American members may mislead you or give you answers that related only to the US, since their lamps and lighting companies are completely different and aren't sold in your country.American Philips is a different company than the European one. And I bet that Westinghouse, American Sylvania, GE North American and Philips North American, aren't relevant to you.
 Non-LED lamps from Philips are good. Their CFL and HID lamps are of high quality. This is the American Philips that is crap in all field of lighting and not only LED.
 
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									| @Froggy05: American members may mislead you or give you answers that related only to the US since their lamps and lighting companies are completely different and aren't sold in your country.American Philips is a different company than the European one. And I bet that Westinghouse, American Sylvania, GE North American, and Philips North American, aren't relevant to you.
 Non-LED lamps from Philips are good. Their CFL and HID lamps are of high quality. This is the American Philips that is crap in all field of lighting and not only LED.
 
 No, not everything the American Philips makes is bad. Philips still makes most of their fluorescents at their Salina, Kansas, USA plant and they are of high quality. They also make their F15T8, PL-S, PL-C, PL-T, and PL-L at the former Polamp plant in Poland for the USA which are also of high quality. They upped the mercury dosage in their fluorescent lamps as well. |  |  
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									| I've heard about the Philips ATLO II and Energy Advantage  suffering from dimming out to pink color fast. |  |  
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									| I still have most LG hated Philip alto F34T12 CW alto tubes from 2003 and being used lamps to start withinstalled them in 2007 that came with troffers
 still going under moms house today.   in am going to
 say philips is like modern westy (even though it dont last as long as real westinghouse)  in this day in era when every thing else going to crap these days.
 
 
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									| In the recent years I installed more than 500 Philips Luma street lights hereabouts  and very rarely I’m facing any failures. Only some of the early Indal Luma lanterns with early drivers are prone to stop working some how but still I do not see any point for blaming these.   Yeah. I've seen many broken Pihlips SpeedStrars and Lumas too  
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