1   Lanterns/Fixtures / Modern / American Electric 315 Power Pad CMH conversion  on: Today at 10:37:44 PM 
Started by HIDLad001 - Last post by HIDLad001
I am looking to convert an AEL series 315 to run 150w G12 base CMH lamps with an electronic ballast. It should be pretty easy to mount the ballast on the power pad and rewire everything, but how should I go about making a CDM-T lamp compatible with the existing (FCO) optical assembly? Should I make a bracket that extends the lampholder out or maybe at an angle?

Any help will be appreciated.
 2   Lanterns/Fixtures / Vintage & Antique / Does low power factor affect electric bill?  on: Today at 10:09:45 PM 
Started by Metal Halide Boy - Last post by Metal Halide Boy
I have been running a 175 watt MV Westinghouse RMA dusk to dawn for a couple years. It has a 120 volt NPF HX ballast. What I was wondering is this. Does the inefficiency of the NPF ballast severely affect the electric bill? Like versus a CWA running on 240 volt or a HPF HX ballast? And also I have wondered, versus a HX, how lossy is a single coil reactor ballast? And yes of course a reactor would be running at 240 volts, and I have been led to beleive that operation at 240v makes any light cheaper to run.
 3   Lanterns/Fixtures / Vintage & Antique / Re: Original HPS/MH or Original MV ??  on: Today at 09:27:25 PM 
Started by wide-lite 1000 - Last post by joseph_125
In my area a lot of the older lights from the mid 70s onwards were factory HPS, before the advent of LED there was stuff like Unidors, OV-15s, and B2255s which were factory HPS. There were some older lights such as Unistyles and M-400s, those were more likely to be factory MV here.

The oldest HPS install here was from 1967, it used GE M-400As. ;D
 4   Lanterns/Fixtures / Vintage & Antique / Re: Original HPS/MH or Original MV ??  on: Today at 05:07:45 PM 
Started by wide-lite 1000 - Last post by wide-lite 1000
Exactly what I was thinking guys . Plus , a lot of older fixtures had long enough production runs to have been made in multiple lamp types (Silverliners , M-400A , M-1000) As for NEMA tags , even they can be replaced so as mentioned above , unless one physically sees the original label inside , there's really no way to tell unless the fixture in question pre-dates MH or HPS such as a clamshell .
 5   Lanterns/Fixtures / Vintage & Antique / Re: Original HPS/MH or Original MV ??  on: Today at 07:32:15 AM 
Started by wide-lite 1000 - Last post by fluorescent lover 40
@BT25 - Yep, that's how I think too. Especially if the light doesn't have a NEMA tag.

For city streets I base the light source of the light on the lights that surround it. An AE 113 surrounded by other M-250R2s that are HPS? Must be HPS. A Westinghouse OV-25 in a city that I know has mostly GE lights that are HPS and I've never seen it before? Must be MV (I've seen this a few times). Of course you should gather info on whether the lights are city-owned or utility owned, and whether or not they've retrofitted lights, and of course what lights they've bought and their light sources; this also applies to private property too.

For shopping centers/strip malls/malls, it's hard to tell, since unless you've seen the inside of the light and the catalog number, you can't tell if they're original or not. Private owners are also more likely to retrofit their lights, unlike city/government entities. Of course, if the light has a NEMA tag, then that makes your job of determining the light source easier.
 6   General / Off-Topic / Re: What did you do today NOT lighting wise  on: Today at 05:47:06 AM 
Started by Bulbman256 - Last post by LightsAreBright27
Today, I found my childhood graphics card, the nvidia geforce 7200 gs. I got the card brand new but was kept in an storage container for a year. Due to this, the VGA pins broke off and the fan support broke (if fan used it will hop around loosely). So little me taped another fan on and used adapters. Even today, it still works.
The only reason I got it during that time was not to play games, but to get aero theme on windows 7.
I am still waiting to find more of my old computer stuff :) .
 7   Lamps / Vintage & Antique / Re: 1000W M47 probe start metal halide ballast cap value to run 425W H40-17 MV lamps  on: May 14, 2024, 11:30:05 PM 
Started by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA - Last post by RRK
As was discussed here recently, it is not the best idea to run CWA ballast with seriously reduced capacitor as the impedance becomes closer to pure capacitive, which is harsh for a lamp. Not the thing you probably want to do to a rare/collectible lamp.
 
 8   Lanterns/Fixtures / Vintage & Antique / Re: Original HPS/MH or Original MV ??  on: May 14, 2024, 11:16:32 PM 
Started by wide-lite 1000 - Last post by BT25
I think that assumption comes from the dominance of mercury vapor back then...I've also seen old catalogs mention HPS and MH options too.
 9   Lamps / Vintage & Antique / Re: 1000W M47 probe start metal halide ballast cap value to run 425W H40-17 MV lamps  on: May 14, 2024, 09:57:57 PM 
Started by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA - Last post by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
So, in this case, would the 425W H40 mercury vapor lamp still be overdriven on a 1000W M47 probe start metal halide CWA ballast even if the series capacitor value is near zero microfarads or could the ballast suffer possible overheating?

Alternatively, it may seem that a last resort for running these lamps could be to source a step up transformer with a 480V secondary and possibly do a series of trial and error tests of series choke ballast combinations until the lamp is running at the proper 1.7A operating current and 265V arc voltage drop?
 10   Lamps / Vintage & Antique / Re: 1000W M47 probe start metal halide ballast cap value to run 425W H40-17 MV lamps  on: May 14, 2024, 07:22:17 PM 
Started by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA - Last post by LightBulbFun
I would love to see someone find a H40 425W mercury lamp, never seen one in a collection I dont think sadly, but you cant fudge a M47/H36 ballast this much, you can do it fine for a 700W mercury lamp, but there is a limit to how far you can take things.

your best bet for running a such a lamp like this in 60Hz land would probably be across the red and blue wires of a 2 lamp F96T12 VHO ballast, 1.5A is likely good enough to run the lamp up to near enough full power.


(interesting brochure/technical document BTW :) interesting to get some detailed info on the 6.6A series mercury lamp, years and years ago someone uploaded a period picture of a lady holding a tray of early westinghouse mercury lamps and there where many interesting types there PS35 shaped 175W sorts and the afromentioned H17 425W and H24 6.6A ~400W~ types, the later of which with its 70V arc voltage you could probably get away with running on a series choke off 120V)
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