11   General / General Discussion / Re: Why do some magnetic rapid-start ballasts have a delay before starting up?  on: Today at 10:03:06 AM 
Started by rapidstart_12 - Last post by suzukir122
Yeah I figured it had no negative impact on the life expectancy of the lamps.
 12   General / General Discussion / Re: Why do some magnetic rapid-start ballasts have a delay before starting up?  on: Today at 09:56:13 AM 
Started by rapidstart_12 - Last post by RRK
Like was said before, a slight delay with ignition is good, as the tubes spend less time with the discharge on cold filaments, so less sputtering. Rapid start circuits balance on quite tight tolerance between no ignition at all and cold starts.

 13   General / General Discussion / Re: Why do some magnetic rapid-start ballasts have a delay before starting up?  on: Today at 09:28:44 AM 
Started by rapidstart_12 - Last post by suzukir122
One issue is definitely grounding... I've had this issue in the past where there was slight delay before the lamps even began attempting to start,
but after properly grounding the fixture, this slight delay went away. I've also seen this delay with properly grounded fixtures though, when the tubes
are exposed to high humidity... especially with full power F40T12's, unfortunately... I've never seen this occur with the F34T12's, and it makes me wonder
whether that may have something to do with the F34T12's containing conductive coating.
 14   General / Off-Topic / Re: Converting alarm clock + halogen lamp to Deaf Alarm Clock  on: Today at 04:18:54 AM 
Started by lightsofpahrump - Last post by RRK
I know. Photovoltaic generators are specialized stuff, hard to get and so unproportionally expensive for what they do. Better to get just a finished 60V high current optoMOS SSR. There is a lot of Chinese ones now for cheap. But optoMOS will need a clean DC control current, while two-stage optoTRIAC like S102/202 will trigger on pretty much any crud above the threshold, including unsmoothed buzzer signal )

S102/202 etc are quite large, easy to dissipate ~3W even without a heatsink, but if doubt could be bolted to anything metal.

 15   General / Off-Topic / Re: Converting alarm clock + halogen lamp to Deaf Alarm Clock  on: Today at 03:38:54 AM 
Started by lightsofpahrump - Last post by Medved
forward drop of 1.5V @2A

...means power dissipation of 3W, not that small...

There also exist photo MOSFETs or even SSR gate drivers like VOM1271 (an example, there are ton of similar products, many even in more DIY convenient packages), you take a pair of MOSFETs like IRFZ44 or so, connect Sources together, Gates together, between Gate and Source connect the output of the VOM, the drains then form the power switch. You get about 100mOhm, that means about 0.2V drop, so barely 0.4W total at 2A.


 16   General / Off-Topic / Re: Converting alarm clock + halogen lamp to Deaf Alarm Clock  on: Today at 02:46:33 AM 
Started by lightsofpahrump - Last post by RRK
If there is a radio as alarm function, an easiest way will be just to hook a relay (contact rating powerful enough for a halogen) across radio power lines.

 17   General / Off-Topic / Re: Converting alarm clock + halogen lamp to Deaf Alarm Clock  on: Today at 02:39:19 AM 
Started by lightsofpahrump - Last post by RRK
In fact, S102/202 optos I mentioned have forward drop of less than 1.5V @2A, so still may be OK even for flashing 12V halogen directly, especially accounting for somewhat constant-current behavior of small power halogen transformers.

To invent an optimized circuit, some hint of actual clock schematics is needed, @lightsofpahrump was asked for, but he prefers to keep silence. Ok, his choice.
 18   Advertisements / Wanted / Re: Looking for a small SOX LPS fixture and lamp such as a wall pack  on: Today at 12:46:37 AM 
Started by HPS4Ever425120 - Last post by joseph_125
You might be able to find a Thomas Duplex Safelight for fairly cheap on eBay. Complete examples sell for a bit but I've found units with missing lamps tend can sell as low as $30-50. They're not a wallpack but they use 35w SOX lamps.
 19   General / Off-Topic / Re: Converting alarm clock + halogen lamp to Deaf Alarm Clock  on: January 06, 2026, 11:31:44 PM 
Started by lightsofpahrump - Last post by Medved
In these things (judging what I have at home) is just one single transformer with one secondary feeding the clock/radio part and then the 12V high current one feeding the halogen. All the switching is then on the low voltage side. So triac would have way too high voltage drop when starting from 12V.

I think the only way to proceed is to trace the buzzer and radio power control circuit and start from there.
To control the radio, there already is some kind of detector/rectifier, as the radio does need a permanent power. And the clock IC very likely provides the same signals all the time (assume one of the clock ICs, not the microcontroller), they are only afterwards blocked by the mode switches.
So depend on how that is arranged, you may either tap on the existing control (if the radio/buzzer switch is after that) or replicate the radio switch circuit to control the relay.

The LM8560 generates only "buzzer" alarm signal by a single PMOS open drain output (it uses PMOS logic technology, so the ground of the clock circuit is positive), so there is a kind of filter circuit which turns that into continuously (when the buzzer is buzzing) available power for the radio.
The is a second "sleep" output, but that works only for the "sleep" function (press the button, it runs the radio for set amount of time and tyen shuts it down), these are combined in the radio power control circuit, but you won't need that (unless you want tye "sleep" function for the lamp asc well). This "sleep" usually goes around the alarm mode switch directly to the radio.
 20   Advertisements / Wanted / Looking for a small SOX LPS fixture and lamp such as a wall pack  on: January 06, 2026, 08:43:14 PM 
Started by HPS4Ever425120 - Last post by HPS4Ever425120
Hi!

I'm located in Illinois in the US.

I have two HPS wall pack fixtures and I love the light from them. However, I've been wanting an example of a LPS fixture but they don't seem available in the US very much. I am interested in a small fixture such as a wall pack with maybe an 18 or 35W lamp and possibly a spare lamp.

Let me know if you have one you'd be willing to sell me!

Thank you.

-Dylan
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