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American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « on: October 24, 2022, 08:44:01 PM » Author: Molly
Sad to hear this. I hope the FCO version doesn't discontinue by 2023.


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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2022, 12:22:58 AM » Author: Econolite03
From a business standpoint, it makes sense unfortunately. Inflation, rising cost for material with declining orders, on top of that they had to switch to lower quality aftermarket ballasts. It was going to happen, and with the direction the economy and the lighting industry is going, they were probably forced to.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #2 on: October 25, 2022, 01:56:20 AM » Author: joseph_125
I wonder if AEL was having trouble sourcing new glass refractors. I suppose the flat glass is a lot simpler to make.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #3 on: October 25, 2022, 08:14:02 AM » Author: Molly
I thought so too.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #4 on: October 25, 2022, 06:50:48 PM » Author: 70HPS
 :'( This is sad. The 115 is pretty much the only decent HID cobrahead offered today.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #5 on: October 26, 2022, 10:22:58 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
 I think it's more of a "Dark Sky" thing as the listing includes the acrylic and polycarbonate refractor versions . As for reliability , ODOT recently redid the I-71/SR 104 interchange and installed 8-10 200w FCO 115's a few years ago . More than  half have already been replaced due to failures . https://goo.gl/maps/7wmdteupFsVxufJP7  Look back to around 2019 at all of the shiny 115 FCOs that are now replaced with Cooper OVZs & AEL 125s .
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #6 on: October 26, 2022, 10:45:40 PM » Author: Burrito
I thought the OVZ was also a poor quality fixture too?
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #7 on: October 27, 2022, 12:18:46 AM » Author: Econolite03
Cooper products from my understanding have been kinda junk for years. Cheap powder-coating that flakes off, questionable ballast components, and flimsy housing castings. They’re not solid fixtures. The OVZs look alright, but unfortunately carry some of those issues.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #8 on: October 27, 2022, 12:23:06 AM » Author: LightsoftheWest
Fully agreed, Matt. I'd rather have an LED street light than a Cooper HID street light.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #9 on: October 27, 2022, 02:59:04 AM » Author: Econolite03
I’d rather have a Current ERL1 over a Cooper OVH.
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #10 on: October 27, 2022, 11:10:42 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
Around here anyways , the 125's seem decent . I've never really been a fan of Cooper products . I like the OVM's. (I have a 400w MV version . The only other Cooper stuff I have is a NOS NYC spec 150w HPS/PSMH OVZ and a couple of MV OVX's that were given to me .
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #11 on: October 27, 2022, 11:23:45 PM » Author: Burrito
I've got s Cooper Super Smokey or similar model but it was converted to 70 watt HPS
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #12 on: October 27, 2022, 11:27:55 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
The guy I got the OVX's from had several but I only took a couple as they were free and MV ! Had they been anything else , I'da passed .
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #13 on: October 28, 2022, 01:01:38 AM » Author: joseph_125
I can't say for how well they hold up in the field as all my Cooper cobraheads were acquired NOS but I did find the castings on my NYC OVZ and OVF to be rather thin, even compared to contemporary cobraheads such as my 125 and M-250R2. 
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Re: American Electric discontinues the refractor version of the 115 « Reply #14 on: October 30, 2022, 10:57:28 AM » Author: xmaslightguy
I'm honestly surprised that any manufacturer would still be making anything HID these days.
Fact is with LED the way it is, HID in general is dead.
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