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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #60 on: June 11, 2023, 12:41:34 PM » Author: Rommie
Ok, I'll put my Judge Rommie hat on then - behave yourself or you'll feel the full power of my Force Lance  :mrg:

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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #61 on: June 11, 2023, 01:03:51 PM » Author: Maxim
Ria,

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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #62 on: June 18, 2023, 10:25:48 PM » Author: Richmond2000
this all reminds me of a news piece from around 2000 and the end of the local to me CGE globe plant
CGE (General Electric Canada) closed its VANCOUVER globe plant as the COST to retrofit AND EXPAND it to produce the far more complex to build internal ballasted CFL's that were being "pushed" politically and consumers were NOT buying external ballasted CFL's to make the "mandate" that was to be around the corner
so facing forced phaseout of incandescent globes AND PL-S floro's not selling well compared to the self ballasted CFL "drop in" replacement bulbs
and the then NEW import CFL kept the price far to LOW to justify the expense so the local CGE and the Westinghouse / Philips globe plant got sold off and converted to a outdoor advertising company making billboard signage and the other was demoed and condo's replaced it
so every residential globe sold comes by boat from the far east and this "saves the planet" PS our power was near as totally hydro electric  :eoled:
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #63 on: June 18, 2023, 10:41:05 PM » Author: Richmond2000
I believe there was a agreement struck that the SOX/LPS lamp makers would ALL PHASE OUT there lamp production for LED units
"In 2017 Philips Lighting, the last manufacturer of LPS lamps, announced they were discontinuing production of the lamps due to falling demand.[16] Initially, production was due to be phased out in the course of 2020, but this date was brought forward and the last lamps were produced at the Hamilton factory on December 31, 2019"
as found on Wikipedia  :lps:
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #64 on: June 23, 2023, 11:34:48 PM » Author: joseph_125
Yeah, I was pretty annoyed when CGE shut down the Oakville, ON lamp plant more than a decade ago (site is still empty BTW) which made incandescent and linear fluorescent, same with LEDVance pulled the plug on the Drummondville, QC plant a few years ago. I don't think there are any lamp plants left in Canada now, only luminaire plants.
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #65 on: June 24, 2023, 09:14:03 AM » Author: Mandolin Girl
@ Richmond2000:
And yet demand for SOX lighting has now picked up again, and they're being made in China.  ??? All of those people in Hamilton just thrown out of work.  :curse:

Unfortunately everyone seems to be moving production there, and the rest of the world is losing its manufacturing base.  :'(
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #66 on: June 24, 2023, 07:59:26 PM » Author: Richmond2000
yup the outcome of "artificial" market manipulation AND forced "obsolescence"
you leave a vacuum for a NEW player to enter



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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #67 on: June 25, 2023, 03:23:35 PM » Author: BT25
Quote from: Mandolin Girl on June 24, 2023, 09:14:03 AM
@ Richmond2000:
And yet demand for SOX lighting has now picked up again, and they're being made in China.  ??? All of those people in Hamilton just thrown out of work.  :curse:

Unfortunately everyone seems to be moving production there, and the rest of the world is losing its manufacturing base.  :'(

All part of Dr. Evil's plan...bwanahhhahahahhahahaha!!!! >:D >:D >:D
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #68 on: June 25, 2023, 03:48:32 PM » Author: Mandolin Girl
Oi! A bit of demarcation here please...  :slap:
I'm the one who does the evil laughs around here.!!!
Bwahahhhahahahhahahaha!!!!  :mrg:
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #69 on: June 25, 2023, 03:57:15 PM » Author: Richmond2000
Quote from: BT25 on June 25, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
All part of Dr. Evil's plan...bwanahhhahahahhahahaha!!!! >:D >:D >:D
bwanahhhahahahhahahaha NEVER bwanahhhahahahhahahaha


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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #70 on: June 25, 2023, 07:12:09 PM » Author: BT25
Quote from: Mandolin Girl on June 25, 2023, 03:48:32 PM
Oi! A bit of demarcation here please...  :slap:
I'm the one who does the evil laughs around here.!!!
Bwahahhhahahahhahahaha!!!!  :mrg:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 :slap: :slap: :slap:  ;D
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #71 on: June 25, 2023, 07:17:24 PM » Author: Rommie
Hey, talking about demarcation, just who is the Chief Slapper around here..?  ;D  :police:

:slap: :slap: :slap: all round  :P  :mrg:
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #72 on: June 25, 2023, 07:57:30 PM » Author: BT25
OK, you got me... :slap: :lol:
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #73 on: August 12, 2023, 10:43:28 AM » Author: Maxim
So, what's next for the lighting sector? Will manufacturing of lamps ever return to the US and UK, or are we now forever dependent on China...?
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Re: End of an era for Sylvania? « Reply #74 on: August 12, 2023, 02:09:25 PM » Author: Richmond2000
^^ sadly I doubt it as LOW profit margin manufacturing is NOT affordable in "developed" economies and LED lighting requires very little "specialized" manufacturing unlike HID lamps
can see LED CHIP production might come to the "west" with the Taiwan / China VS USA "issues" and "friendshoring" but I imagine some other likely Asian country will get MOST of the CONSUMER lamps with HIGHER margin "professional" lamps made locally for "buy XXX rules"
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