Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #45 on: May 03, 2023, 10:52:13 AM » Author: Rommie
A sad state of affairs, though. I'm old enough to remember when we built stuff to last in this country. Workshop of the world, we were, now look at us
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #46 on: May 03, 2023, 01:54:41 PM » Author: AngryHorse
Well as recently as 1979, which isn’t THAT long ago, Thorn lighting would have a couple of page’s worth of spares for their fluorescent battens!, end caps, starter switch holders, chokes and capacitors, new bowls and defusers, even little things like the end springs that held the caps on were all available to order from the spares depot in Spennymoor! How times have changed!
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #48 on: May 03, 2023, 03:14:55 PM » Author: AngryHorse
One of the saddest losses for me in the lighting industry was the closure of Thorns mighty Melton road works in 2007 and the spares depot in Spennymoor  Thorn would ship anything to whoever wholesale dealt with them, every single spare you could think of from bowls for street lanterns to full lanterns themselves along with all their gear components and lamp holders, as long as you found a wholesaler that dealt with Spennymoor, Spennymoor would send it to you, whether you were an electrician, lighting engineer or cash sale domestic user/enthusiast! Granted it would usually take about 3 weeks (as the wholesaler had to have an order over £1000), but Thorn lighting never once failed me or told me I couldn’t have one of them! Everything I have with Thorns name on came thanks to the massive team at Spennymoor! The loss of the Melton Road works was such a sad sad loss to Britain and its lighting industry!
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #49 on: May 03, 2023, 03:19:39 PM » Author: Rommie
I thought Spennymoor was still going..? Our Leopard 2D fixtures say on the label they come from there and they're very recent (2019 or so I think)
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #50 on: May 03, 2023, 03:25:52 PM » Author: AngryHorse
I wasn’t sure on Spennymoor?, although I do know it was cleared out of all its street lighting stock when they stopped making it all, from what I’ve heard you can’t even get HID control gear from it now?, could be wrong though?
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #51 on: May 03, 2023, 03:33:30 PM » Author: Rommie
I just checked our 28W 2D, it was made week 37 of 2019, the 16W one is older though, 2012.
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #52 on: May 03, 2023, 03:40:40 PM » Author: AngryHorse
Yeah it does indeed look like the factory is still in operation, but more on the manufacturing side than spares today, or maybe Thorn spares still exists albeit for LED today?
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #54 on: May 04, 2023, 09:20:22 PM » Author: HomeBrewLamps
Quote from: Rommie on May 01, 2023, 10:12:30 AM Can't see why they would. These bans, as I understand it, are aimed at the commercial sector rather than private individuals. Willing to be proven wrong though, if anyone has any definitive evidence..? FBI... OPEN UP!
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #56 on: May 05, 2023, 08:27:53 AM » Author: Rommie
The FBI doesn't have any jurisdiction here
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #57 on: June 04, 2023, 07:30:50 PM » Author: Robotjulep
Quote from: Burrito on April 27, 2023, 01:37:19 PM I'm afraid the US is going to do the same next. Does the ban affect second hand sale? If they make it illegal to even own HID lamps in USA, I might have to hide my collection or move to a more rural area. Banning HID lights is like communism where everyone is only allowed to use one light source: LED
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #58 on: June 04, 2023, 07:33:58 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Japan banned mercury vapor lamps in 2020, but I know that some manufacturers like Panasonic are set to discontinue all metal halide and high pressure sodium lamps by 2024.
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	Re: Switzerland is banning HID Lamps « Reply #59 on: June 04, 2023, 08:07:55 PM » Author: Robotjulep
LED is propaganda, scam, and false-advertising. Who cares about being eco-friendly if you have good power plants. HID ran on coal. LED still runs on coal. I don't see much of a difference here. But LED cheaply made crap that is forcing a new "trend" of light fixtures that look nothing like stuff that had "replaceable" bulbs. "Instead you never have to replace it because LED lasts long." Pretty soon changing a lightbulb from a socket is not going to exist anymore due to permanent LED fixtures and most people will have to hire a person to do that. I think the older lamps were for the smarter generation who knew how to repair things, but LED is making people stupid. Before 2014, laptops used to have replaceable CPUs. Now the CPU is permanently soldered onto the PCB. I see were technology is going. I am set for life with CFL lighting and I am going to continue to go to Lowes to grab their recycled lamps and repair them. I have probably 100 CFL lamps all from the recycle and I think that's more "Eco Friendly" than LED. I am not spending a dime on LED at all. CFLs are "free"  . Conventional lighting is far superior to LED and it will always be.
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